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they decide to do on this fiscal cliff business. katie, the next biggest one, $87 billion is an increase in the payroll tax. .9%, 2.9 to 3.8%, small business busy and self-employed. how does that promote growth. they're going to be hiring less and there are going to be fewer employees. >> don't they talk about this? why don't they do the add-ones that you're doing on the obama care taxes? >> i'm actually not sure about this. i'm pretty confused about why the romney campaign didn't hit the obama care tax argument harder on the campaign trail because the supreme court ruled it a tax for good reason. it had gone through the numbers here on your show. this hit small businesses and in return hits the middle class, the very people that these small businesses employ, the people who will get hid the hardest, even though making $200,000 per year are the ones employing the middle class that president obama keep propping up to get his agenda passed. >> now we have this $20 million medical device tax. this has been around. i believe you write this will really crush medical innovation in the united s
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down. >> are you worried about the fiscal cliff? how is business going? you're an entrepreneur in your own right. i want to talk to you about business, but how you preparing for the cliff? >> well, there's no way one can be preparing. you have to be think about uncertainty as you make your investment decision. in terms of fiscal policy, obviously there's a great goal between the republicans and the democrats. at least there's a bit of talk on the table now. hopefully that can start to narrow. we're certainly still living in uncertain times. we're cognizant of that as we inves invest. >> as a small business owner, how would you characterize business right now? your jewelry line, small business activities pmplg. >> i've had the good fortune of creating a fashion brand. i have jewelry, shoes, handbags, et cetera. i found a niche within the market hthat's looking for affordable price points. it's really been resonating very well. >> sounds like you're on style, actually. ivanka, good to have you on the program. we look forward to you ringing the bell and lighting the christmas tree out her
run small businesses, people who are most targeted by the tax increases. take the fiscal cliff stuff out, obama taxes target small businesses, let's say have you a small, not unreasonable you make around $500,000, you. we like 15 people. you raise their taxes, they will lop off 2 or 3 of those people. neil: who are these small business guys that got in. >> i'm sure some of them have- you know, listen, not all small businesses are monolithic. neil: who are big business guys. >> lloyd, just so you know, i know him personal, saying how great the president's plan is, ear something like warren buffet, they made so much money already. what do they care if you take of their taxes a little bit. james gorman that runs morgan stanley, i really like, said put pressure on congress to get a deal done, i am sure that that james would not care if they raised upper rate on people, but morgan stanley still pushing for certain deducts that helpusiness, i would be careful with listening to the quote, unquote corporate. >> we did look at this, we cannot prove a exact number but overwhelming number, eit
with the fear of falling off, know what, the fiscal cliff. if washington does a deal, small businesses may feel brightner the next survey. but for now the uncertainty means owners, who are the biggest drivers in employment, are less likely to hire more workers or invest in growth. one in five said they will cut their workforce the next twelve months. that's the highest since the survey began ten years ago. one in three predict they will slash capital spending the next year too. here is how gallop summed it up. survey suggests the u.s. economy is extremely fragile and possibly susceptible to another recession. we will take a look at what exactly the fiscal cliff means to small business owners and what they can do to prevent any damage. they could be among the hardest hit if we don't get a deal. shannon, back to you. >> so many consequences. all right. thank you, brenda. we asked, you answered. up next, your time to chime in on today's twitter question. and a must-see kicker video you do not want to miss. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the re
decisions? is it irrelevant to your business if we go over the fiscal cliff? how does a ceo look at what's happening in washington and decide for next year? >> most of the ceos look at the situation in washington with complete amazement and dismay to be frank about it. the problem is the ideological pinnings on both sides of this argument are so difficult to bridge that it's going to be hard for them to get a deal. >> he also said that they're fighting the wrong fight. i asked would you be willing to pay higher taxes yourself? warren buffett says rich should pay higher taxes. he said the fight should be about the corporate tax rate, doing things to goad corporations into spending money and into hiring, and into really building out their business, not just for small business but for big business, too. that's what the argument should be. the argument over tax rates for the rich is the wrong fight to be having. >> what worries me about this, you said these big ceos like fred smith will make decisions as we get closer to the fiscal cliff, because they have to kick in some of these changes. d
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're not seeing much in the way of new business creation. in part because of worries about the fiscal cliff. have entrepreneurs sitting on the sidelines. who wants to start a business without knowing what the capital gains tax will be, tax code rate. plus the whole office supply industry has been shrinking for awhile, not just office max but office depot and staples as company shifted away from using lots of paper towards digital solutions like apple ipads. meanwhile there's not that much demand for the technological devices some of the companies sell which have become increasingly commoditysed. just witness hideous performance of best buy. despite all these big perceived big picture, office max has been rallying like crazy. stock has run up 122% for year. and it's fallen from 4.26 from the beginning of august to nearly $10. right now where the stock is less than a point off its 52-week high. what the heck, right? five months ago this stock had been left for dead. but now somehow office max has managed to find new life and become a monster good performer. just when you expect the company to be ta
person, everyone talks about what the fiscal cliff could do to small business, what obama care can do for small business, but you said we shouldn't worry about that so much, that we should get some sort of compromise in order to keep moving and keep talking and keep moving forward? >> well, i think that it was pretty clear during the course of the election and since and even in the president's speech today where he said he's willing to give on some revenue and some spending cuts, he's proposed some, he's already passed some into law. and beyond that, just from my perspective, what i see is that we know that we're a confidence-based economy, we're 70% of the economy driven by consumer spending and anything that puts a crimp in consumer spending is not good for the economy. so to put a tax rise, a tax rate increase for the middle class makes no sense to me. someone who makes 50, 60, $70,000 a year will lose and will take away a lot of discretionary purchases from people like me and travel and a whole host of other areas. i hope our leaders in washington are listening and they take the s
our particular business standpoint, we would love to see the fiscal cliff solved, we would love to see fundamentals come back to sense, but our affordable care act, i don't see that as a big impact at all. >> simple, good clean story with good distribution, nice yield. scott peters, chairman and president of health care trust of america. they are not involved with the crazies in of america other than maybe they can profit from it. [ male announcer ] if you suffer from heartburn 2 or more days a week, why use temporary treatments when you can prevent the acid that's causing it with prevacid24hr. with one pill prevacid24hr works at the source to prevent the acid that causes frequent heartburn all day and all night. and with new prevacid24hr perks, you can earn rewards from dinner deals to music downloads for purchasing prevacid24hr. prevent acid all day and all night for 24 hours with prevacid24hr. >>> are we underestimating sandy, just plain wrong about how much rebuilding needs to be done? maybe this morning we got a recognition from bill dudley, president of the new york federal reser
over the last couple of weeks. but going over the fiscal cliff is serious business. and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it. and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> we can debate at length whether the november 6th election was a mandate, but i don't think we can debate the basics that it was a work order, a work order from the american people to members of congress and to the president, roll up your sleeves, work together and solve the problems. we got the message. did speaker boehner get the message? because the message was work together. what we hear from him is all of his pain and frustration and angst dealing with the tea party in his own caucus. well, there comes a point when he needs to look beyond his caucus to the house and to the nation. >> all right. welcome back to "morning joe." >> i guess the more things change, the more they stay the same. it's depressing, you're right, harold, we've seen this movie before. this was a year ago. this happened a year ago. and i know the media says oh, it's the republicans' fault any time the house doesn't co
being asked. we are willing to go over the fiscal cliff. why? to square the members to call their members of congress. if you talk to business people and people in the banking industry they are not concerned about the fiscal cliff and i am not sure why. maybe they feel it is going to get done. this is very, very interesting. >> steve: i think there are people who are optmistic that something can happen in the long run. >> brian: we get past this hurdle and we might get on a roll. >> steve: john boehner said the republicans point of view. we don't have to raise rates on the top people. we can tighten things up and close the loop holes and deduction. actually that the president of the united states's point of view back last year . now he said it is all about tax rates. this is the president in a flash back. >> what we said give us 1.2 trillion in additional revenues which could be accomplished without hiking tax rates, but could simply be questioned by eliminating loop holes and deductions and engaging in a tax reform process that could have lowered rates. >> steve: he was for
the fiscal cliff a lot of investment houses are lowering their growth outlook. that is because the owners of small businesses, they are the drivers of the economy. they hire. right now, one out of five cut jobs in the next 12 months. one out of three is cutting capital spending. if there is no jobs we don't have consumer spending that is 70% of g.d.p., so this is really steam rolling. it is frightening. >> gregg: i was reading economists and they say household purchases, wages in salary going down, durable goods decreasing now we have manufacturing coming out on monday as well as jobs report on thursday or friday? >> yeah, the jobs report is expected to be very dismal, about 75,000 net jobs. some of that is because of sandy, but housing market is rebuilding, it's recovering. that makes people feel more wealthy. this retail season is going to be very critical. it's going to tell us a lot. stocks could go up on that. we have some tail winds but right now there is a lot of question marks. >> gregg: brenda, we'll talk about sandy and impact on the economy in the next hour. you can catch brend
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over the fiscal cff warning business executives, the economy could take another hit if republicans cide to extend just to middle class tax cuts to avoid the cliff for now and come back next year with more leverage to tie spending cuts and medicare reform to another hike in the nati's debt ceing. >> we're not going to play that game next year. if congress, in any way suggests they tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, and take us to the ink of default again as part of a budget negotiation, i will not play that game. >> republicans held their meeting with small business owners and denied they are trying to punt until next year. >> i'll be here. i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious about solving the problem. >> they noted the president has not scheduled any meetings with g.o.p. leaders in weeks and not offered a counterproposal to boehner's plan from last week. >> frankly, it was the balanced apoach the president's be asking for. we need a response from the white house. >> reporter: the president continues to envies the only impediment to t deal i
to meet with governors next week as part of his effort to talk with people about avoiding the fiscal cliff. members of the national governors' association executive committee meeting at the white house next tuesday, including chairman teller governor as well as wisconsin governor scott walker. the president will deliver a speech to the business roundtable was a recap the president has delivered a speech at a toy factory, met with all business owners, middle-class taxpayers, labor union leaders, two groups of business executives on the cliff, but has not met with the republicans with whom he has to deal in order to cut a deal. up next, the house passes legislation to provide visas to emigrants with advanced degees. cries of racism from one democrat. we will take it up in the "lou dobbs forum." republicans leading the way on immigration reform. will take that up as well. on our way to this break, here is our list of the folks te president should also consider meeting with on the fiscal cliff. people really love snapshot from progressive, but don't just listen to me. listen to these happy pro
parts of the proposals to avert that fiscal cliff will really have. tonight we tackle the much-discussed concept of increasing tax rates for the top 2%. chief business correspondent ali velshi joins me now. help us cut through the spin. the partisans all have a different take on this. if you raise taxes on the top 2%, what's the impact? what does it look like and how much of an impact would it have on the deficit? >> well, let's look at it in two ways. one is income tax, right? right now, the highest earners, those households that earn more than a quarter million dollars a year, pay a higher tax rate on the marginal amount, the amount above the $250,000 a year. so we're talking about taking that rate from 36% to 39.6% if we even go there. that hasn't even been negotiated yet but that's 3.6% on every dollar you earn above $250,000. there are not a lot of studies that suggest that that would have catastrophic effects on the economy. the other area that democrats want to raise taxes are on investment income, things like capital gains, dividend income. now, those will jump signific
speaker, john boehner, both expressing optimism on those fiscal cliff negotiations in washington. the dow rallied 100 points yesterday off of those comments. how many times have you heard me say congress will mess it up. >>> goldman sachs ceo met with the president and others yesterday for those fiscal cliff talks. listen to what he told wolf blitzer when asked if taxes should be raised on those making more than $250,000 a year. if that's what it takes to make the math work when you look at entitlement side and revenue side, i wouldn't preclude that. of course we would have to do that if the numbers drive that way. >> he said america can't afford itself right now the way we're going. fiscal cliff talks today continue with geithner making the rounds on capitol hill. later this morning, third quarter gdp expected to be revised higher. economists expect gdp for july to september to be revised from 2% to 2.8%. that would be good news. this is still modest growth. everyone hopes that next year will be a better year than this one in terms of growth. you want to see more than 2.5% growth consist
this morning. u.s. stock futures are trading higher. the foj kus is on washington as fiscal cliff negotiations continue. we will also get an update on the health of the labor market when the weekly jobless claims report comes out later this month. >>> by now you all know the siren logo. >> many of you will grab a cup of coffee this morning. starbucks ceo has sobering advice to offer on the looming fiscal cliff, that the consequences will be far worse than last year's debt ceiling fight when the u.s. credit rating was downgraded for the first time ever. his message to lawmakers, now is not the time to play politics. it's about doing right by the american people. >> i think if people would get in the room and leave their ego behind, and not be so skewed towards the party but be so sensitive to the lens of the american people, we will have an agreement. >> poppy harlow is joining us with more. we've been talking about how this will affect us. schultz says this goes way beyond our boarders. >> it's global. something that stuck with me talking to him about this, the people who need a deal most will
don't know what the fiscal cliff is, you've probably been living under a rock. i found this explanation. this is mr. burns from the simpsons. >> think of the economy as a car and the rich man is the driver. if you don't give the driver all the money, he'll drive you over a cliff. it is just -- >> what actually will happen if america does head toward that fiscal cliff? and go over it even temporarily? cnn money's jean zahadi has been on this story from the very beginning. here is the question at hand. a lot of people are saying, what happens if we don't get a deal right by the end of december and we get into early january, maybe go over the cliff for a week or two? is that catastrophic? >> it doesn't have to be. there are steps the government can take to mitigate the impact of the spending cuts and the tax increases. but legislative and budget experts i talked to say that really assumes a lot of things. one, that congress will act quickly, which can it do if it wants to, but, you know, can they cut a deal in january that they couldn't cut in december? that's one question
effect. that could be also, by the way, a fiscal cliff effect. zplint vi >> interviewing secretary geithner later today. what's your first question going to be? >> i want to get his response -- we had the president respond to boehner's proposal but i want to get the secretary's response, too, the specific issue of, hey, the republicans looked like they made a step forward, actually got some accolades in some of the press for agreeing to new revenues. where's the administration's response on that side? are they willing to give? i think that's a key question right now in terms of what the news flow is right now but also there's critical questions about the dollars on both sides of the equation, tyler. >> steve leisman, thank you very much. >>> jim iuorio, i want to ask you the same question i just asked steve. if you were talking to secretary geithner at 4:00 p.m. today as steve will be, what would your first question to him be? >> my questions would be about dividends and capital gains as they're market related. with the dividends we've seen a tremendous amount of companies bring th
comments made by president obama and house speaker john boehner, both expressing optimism on fiscal cliff negotiations in the washington. in a new report from the congressional budget office it says more than half a trillion has been spent on jobless benefits over the past five years. $520 billion in jobless benefits in five years. also part of the debate, whether to extend the deadline to file for additional unemployment benefits beyond the end of the year. spending on food stamps is rising. nearly 15 million households received food stampses in 2011, up 10% from the year before according to new data from the census bureau. it shows you the far reach of the government right now in the safety net in supporting american families. all of that at the core of the debate of what's happening with the fiscal cliff. >>> $7 coffee. starbucks thinks you will pay. coffee connoisseurs can pay $7 for a grande cup of costa rica fincapalamara. it's called mucho deneiro. cultivated from a central american bean known as geisha. it is extremely difficult to produce. the same america who spends $7 on lotter
a little bit. gridlock in washington over the fiscal cliff making stock investors really nervous. stocks are acting unpredictable. so watch out ahead here. companies should be making hiring and spending plans for next year. instead they're left wondering whether consumers are going to take home less money, and that government agencies can slash spending. a recipe for recession. i asked the ceo of fedex how companies plan ahead when washington is so dysfunctional. >> well i think most of the ceos look at the situation in washington with complete amazement and dismay, to be frank about it. the problem is, the ideological pinnings on both sides of this argument are so difficult to bridge, that it's going to be hard for them to get a deal. >> that's right. other ceos i talked to yesterday said they think it will be hard to get a deal, soledad and it's kind of a grim move right now in d.c. about how long it's going to take -- >> xavier becerra, it sounded like compromise could be on the table because they're going to come to this cliff deadline that will put pieces in place that maybe just ha
disasters. we don't need to navigate the fiscal cliff. that will hurt the economy. when the economy is bad, less people travel commercially for leisure, less people send packages. it hurts us and again, razor thin profit margin, we need a good economy, we need the economy good overt long haul. it's good for business. >> gretchen: do you think they were actually listening to what you had to say? >> i think they were. >> gretchen: really? >> yeah. i think it was a good discussion because the business radio he said were talking about what the impact of going overt cliff would be and also with a it would be down the line. >> gretchen: but so much, nick, of what's been discussed in the press is only about increasing taxes. you just got done talking about the fact that a stool falls over unless you have the other legs there. did you get the sense in these insider talks that people are actually going to take on entitlement reform? >> i think behind the scenes talk, yes. right now there is a lot of public posturing going on and that, i think, i personally think that's a problem because in the nego
've got a fiscal cliff now. we have the fiscal abyss next year. we need to say, don't come home. no deal, no break. members should be in washington at least five days a week like every other american and not leave until they deal with the fiscal cliff this year or until we get a grand bargain next year. they would pull off seven times more days -- >> david faber tweeted this morning that they should be locked in a room and forced to listen to the animal orchestra until they have a deal. >> david faber's hair. >> you put them in a room. you tell them they're going to sit there until the deal is done. day three, no more food. day five, no water. day seven, the waterboarding begins. that would get it done. >> and the president should be there, too. >> the president does work five days a week. >> but not in the same room. but he is home. he's already home. >> but listen, they spend too much time raising money. if they did a good job, they wouldn't have to raise as many money. if they got paid for performance, they wouldn't have any money. >> are you going to run for linda mcmahon's seat? >>
the recovery started. now, i'm not going to blame it all on the fiscal cliff. we have a slowing economy. we have slowing economies around the world. but i was at a dinner with a bunch of ceos in washington who are interested and care about this fiscal issue on monday night. and they were talking about we're not hiring. we're allowing attrition to happen. we're holding back on big spending. we want to see what happens here before we go forward. what's interesting about this is that the consumer seems to have a different view. the consumer -- for the consumer so far, this has sort of passed by. i wouldn't say blissful ignorance, but it has not affected their behavior. you had a fairly strong set of economic numbers this fall. the housing market seems to have finally turned up after a period of obviously deep decline. and so consumer confidence, which is one of our best proxies for this kind of thing, has been turning up and really does not yet -- the fiscal cliff does not yet seem to have penetrated their consciousness. for those of us who were in stores over the holiday weekend, stores are c
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